Quote from squidhead :

P.S: I already suggested to ban demo racers from "improvement suggestions" before

Because they are less people then us - S1/S2 licences holders?Come on...these people are like me or you with great ideas as well.

How come that Demo racers get free updates to physic,graphics and other improvements and still moaning.Show me any other games which offer that for demo the same way as LFS.

LFS had only 3 cars at start(before S1 and S2) and I never missed fastest cars.Its about the great physic and online code LFS having.

I know that.when something is for free people are always unhappy they dont get it right etc.Pretty old story.

I really enjoyed that one.Not typical interview to read but was not boring and thats matter.I even didnt feel this time I miss that Victor didnt mentioned anything about future of LFS or next patches.

Maybe your ISP is shaping connection over specific ports as they think it might be some P2P connection.

You said you tried packet lost but I guess via ping service.I think it check packet lost defaultly over port 80.Try packet loss with ports which use LFS.

Regarding the W9/W10 issue you should report that in "Test Patch section".

Quote from Jakg :

what?

9/12 = 1 1/3 (Ops per clock)

3 / 1 1/3 = 2.25

so a 2.25 GHz C2D = a 3 GHz AMD (although the C2D is a little faster actually)

You really cant count.Look at the link I posted.The difference is about 400-600Mhz not more.

I am looking how much it cost and at the same priced AMD X2 and C2D you get almost same performance.Just check again the link to the tests I have posted above.

Quote from SKaREO :

I see a lot of people trying to act like Gran Turismo isn't the most successful racing simulator ever made.

Do you look for arcade game like Grandturismo or for hardcore sim racing like LFS?

I would not call the GT a racing simulator.If you want to call it that way then I am afraid you failed to see the difference between racing simulator and something like GrandTurismo.

Well,LFS lacks some official tracks,cars but does it make LFS worst simulation?No.
Its not about the cars and tracks but its about the physic model which is far the best in racing simulator games around.

At the moment I can only agree that in my eyes is S1 a bit waste of money but S2 is really different story.As was said this shoud be changed soon.Thats something which is very a different against other games.LFS devs listen to their customer/comunity and they not asking for more and more money for every graphical,physical or content updated.

Last edited by DEVIL 007, Sun 22 Apr 2007, 20:58.

add bit more.Seems someone need math lessons again
2.4Ghz C2D is like 3GHz A64 X2

Quote from Jakg :

erm, for every MHz a Core 2 Duo does 33% more than an AMD because of its architecture (9 ops per clock VS 12), that means a 2.0 GHz C2D is like a 3.2 GHz AMD

Go for the Core 2 Duo

you must be joking Jakg.2Ghz C2D is not definatelly like 3.2Ghz AMD.Depend on type of application but its not definately so huge difference.

I can give you a proof.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articl ... lay/dualcore-roundup.html

By the way if some is going to buy C2D wait a 1-2 weeks.On the 22th April Intel will announce price reduction, for example E6600 will drop around 30 percent.Other C2D processors as well.

Last edited by DEVIL 007, Sun 22 Apr 2007, 08:58.

Quote from DEVIL 007 :

Pablo,
thats weird.I got with your SPR file replay OOS at 37.77 with wheel view.

EDIT:Thats getting even more weird.I tried to play that file from wheel view again but now got OOS replay not at 37.77 but at 55.69.This is really strange.

Hi Scawen,

I get some reproducable bug.

With Pablo`s replay on the previous page I can get the OOS every time I am in wheel view then I pres ESC for menu and I go to VIEW menu.
If I chnage FOV view lets say from 90 to 93 degree then press ESC the replay get OOS after few seconds(1-3). It does the same when I change PITCH view,ROTATE view,DRAW(main) from wheel to body.I would say it does with very option you change.

Also tried to go to also to GRAPHIC menu when replay is running, changed shadows from HIRES to OFF and got OOS with that replay as well.

It does OOS also from CHASE view,TV view,COCKPIT view when you change something in VIEW menu or Graphic menu.It would need more testing what all of entries in MENU when you change them get that replay OOS but it does already with what I have described above.

Last edited by DEVIL 007, Sun 22 Apr 2007, 08:41.

Quote from SamH :

Reading between the lines, I think the edge between S1 and S2 may be getting more blurred.. meaning that S1 players may soon be able to see S2 servers that are running S1 content. I may be wrong on this.. it's just the impression I'm getting, watching what's happening with the direction of the LFS development path.

All that said, I personally would really strongly recommend going straight to S2. It's my personal recommendation because I like faster cars, and S2 gets you the GTR class cars, the FOX, FO8 and the BF1 (to name a few).

We recently also moved the STCC 2 - Silver & Gold server to S1, so there's actually somewhere for S1 drivers to go to, once they've earned their Silver licence. The base reason for running S1 servers is to give S1 licence holders somewhere to race (to get the old S1 licence holders back into LFS), but ALSO to encourage them to consider upgrading to S2. This is where LFSers are definitely happiest. The S2 cars absolutely rock.

Reading more and more that somebody bought S1 licence and has almost no place to drive makes me thinking that DEVs shouldnt sell S1 licences anymore.It doesnt make nice picture to customer if LFS is promoted as online racing simulator but with S1 it doesnt looks like that.

Maybe something for DEVs to strongly consider.
I think now demo encourage people more then S1 to buy S2.

May we know what it fixed so when someone will have later simmilar issue we can use this thread as reference.

you know.The drivers now focus more on DX9 then DX8.1 or even DX8 which run LFS on.I am not saying its like that but its my suspect.

Its same with other games that ATI&NVIDIA always support with latest drivers less and less older games.I would still its still not fair from them.We are their customers.

looks like arcade I know but how is that possible.Xbox 360 doesnt have tripple output.

Pablo,
thats weird.I got with your SPR file replay OOS at 37.77 with wheel view.

EDIT:Thats getting even more weird.I tried to play that file from wheel view again but now got OOS replay not at 37.77 but at 55.69.This is really strange.

Last edited by DEVIL 007, Sat 21 Apr 2007, 21:10.

How often does this happen?
I had simillar issue 2 weeks in row one year ago.It was my ISP having problems locally for few blocks.

Do you have some packets lost?

Quote from SpaceMarineITA :

it does not allow you to enter saying something like "another player is already joining the server"
If i wait some seconds, then i can reconnect and join without any problem.

P.S: sorry for advicing it only now, but i have just realized that it could be a bug instead of a wanted thing

I would say its not a bug but a feature.I has been like that for ages.I know its sometimes annoying but when you reconnect 1-2 sec later its fine.Dont see a big problem with that.

Quote from Becky Rose :

@Scawen: Sorry Scawen, but it is reproduceable everytime: Fe Green, full field of AI + me, W10, a no cut layout, 2 laps, watch replay until it finishes and then press escape for menu and then click start race.

I tried the same thing but it doesnt do what you have described on my system.

i know that all do NAT even the cheapest one.What about the NAPT?
He needs some with port forwarding and I am not sure all do that.

Last edited by DEVIL 007, Sat 21 Apr 2007, 11:48.

That one cost around 50euros/68$ here in europe:-(

Congrats for the new car to that guy!!!

Samsung 226BW now looks like best 22" LCD screen.
It has very good reviews and also HDCP support.

also LG L226WTQ has very nice reviews.

http://translate.google.com/tr ... mp;prev=%2Flanguage_tools

22" screens big review

Guys,
dont wanna make you feeling sad but there was already lost a big opportunity for another ... but it did not happend .I guess devs has more important things to do then adding no-name car in LFS and I am towards improving the simulation rather then having no-name car.

I dont see the DP1 in LFS possible now.Maybe later after S2 final.

Last edited by DEVIL 007, Sat 21 Apr 2007, 08:33.

Sorry to say that but I would be miles away from Vista now.
Its not a day I would not see or hear a lot of complaints against it.I have a lot of PC noob friends who bought Vista because they think its cool,new,better....bla,bla bla.The experiencs then are sometimes very confusing.

I would wait with buying Vista till SP1 at least.Seems Microsoft had so many years for developing Vista but still released Vista as very unfinished product.I dont remember seeing so many problems at start with Windows XP.The worst thing is that there are so many bugs Microsoft is aware and even not gonna fix it now.Thats I am saying nice customer support.Wake up Microsoft.

Try to shutdown the intergarted Vistas;s firewall.Might be the thing.

Sorry guys to say that but looks like ATI messed up with drivers for LFS again.
There was huge thread beafore about performance drop with some drivers from ATI in LFS a long time ago and now again?

Maybe to report it to ATI(AMD)?http://support.ati.com/ics/sur ... surveyID=486&type=web

What about installing just driver without the Catalyst center(which still look like bloatware to me) and try to use Ati Tray tools for changing AA or AF. Just 1st uninstall completly the drivers including catalyst center,then restart and then install just the drivers.do not install up to that Catalyst center.Would be worth to try it.There is seperate package on ATI pages only for driver.

Also to try a bit older drivers here: http://ati.amd.com/support/dri ... p/radeonxprevious-xp.html

Last edited by DEVIL 007, Sat 21 Apr 2007, 19:51.